KIDOU SENSHI GUNDAM DOUBLE ZETA
STATUS
COMPLETE
EPISODES
47
RELEASE
January 31, 1987
LENGTH
24 min
DESCRIPTION
It is the year 0088 of the Universal Century in Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ. The badly damaged assault cruiser Argama docks at the run-down space colony of Shangri-La for much-needed repairs. While the Argama is in drydock, a young junk dealer named Judau Ashta sneaks aboard in an attempt to steal the Zeta Gundam. He wants to sell it in order to help his sister, but instead he finds himself coerced into joining the Argama’s crew. Unfortunately for Judau, the Argama is being pursued by a dedicated Neo Zeon officer named Mashymre Cello. In order to protect both his sister and himself, Judau must master the Argama’s newest mobile suit, the ZZ Gundam.
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CAST
Judau Ashta
Kazuki Yao
Roux Louka
Naoko Matsui
Leina Ashta
Maya Okamoto
Glemy Toto
Tsutomu Kashiwakura
Kamille Bidan
Nobuo Tobita
Haman Karn
Yoshiko Sakakibara
Sayla Mass
You Inoue
Bright Noa
Hirotaka Suzuoki
Haro
Mayumi Shou
Mineva Zabi
Miki Itou
Elpeo Ple
Chieko Honda
Fa Yuiry
Miyuki Matsuoka
Mashymre Cello
Kenyuu Horiuchi
Elle Vianno
Eriko Hara
Ple Two
Chieko Honda
Chara Soon
Hazuki Kadoma
Yazan Gable
Houchuu Ootsuka
Hayato Kobayashi
Kiyonobu Suzuki
Beecha Oleg
Shin Mori
Astonaige Medoz
Shin Mori
Wong Lee
Yukimasa Natori
Iino Abbav
Masami Kikuchi
Gottn Goh
Kouji Totani
Illia Pazom
Kimie Sawaki
Mondo Agake
Kouzou Shioya
EPISODES
Dubbed
RELATED TO KIDOU SENSHI GUNDAM DOUBLE ZETA
REVIEWS
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25/100This is Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, the black sheep of Early Universal Century and the bastard successor to Zeta Gundam.Continue on AniListspoilers for both Zeta Gundam and especially ZZ
Prologue
When people think of the phrase “worst Gundam anime”, there are usually a few choices that tend to stick out in fans’ minds, including the likes of Gundam SEED Destiny and as of now, Twilight Axis. Among such lists, you might sometimes see Gundam ZZ being thrown around, and it’s very understandable as to both why one would give it such a label and as to why one would defend it as something that becomes good over time. Regardless, most fans who see it tend to agree that the first 20 or so episodes of ZZ are terrible, hindering what they consider to be an otherwise fine enough installment.
Gundam ZZ is a case of “too little too late”. While the latter half on its own is a decently serviceable installment in terms of quality, with a few surprisingly good moments, the former half is probably the worst I’ve seen of the franchise to date. It is genuinely terrible, insufferable even. It would take a lot for me to find the series remotely tolerable after 22 episodes of intense suffering on my end thanks to absolutely abysmal characterization, franchise betrayals, and many more grievances that utterly destroy this first half, and while the second half is fine enough, “fine enough” doesn’t cut it when trying to salvage an otherwise 1/10 series, especially when after episode 36, the second half stops being “fine enough” and goes back to being horrible, as if turning over a new leaf was a ruse. This is Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, the black sheep of Early Universal Century and the bastard successor to Zeta Gundam. Let’s dive in, shall we?
Part 1: Brutal downgrades of old characters and what ZZ does to Zeta
It's easy for some to look at the show and say “the second half makes the show decent though the first half is bad”, and that only really works if the first half isn't insanely horrific and if the second half is really, really good. Neither is the case, and the first half of this show is either a doubt the absolute worst this franchise has to offer, even now when comparing it to Twilight Axis and SEED Destiny. The thing is, at least those don't go out of their way to piss all over their predecessors.
Say what you will about Zeta Gundam, you cannot deny the growth some of the characters had over time. That makes it all the more infuriating when important characters such as Fa Yuiry and Yazan Gable get nerfed ridiculously, losing to and all around being completely outclassed complete newbies like Judau Ashta early into the show. Fa became a competent pilot at the end of Zeta Gundam and Yazan was one of the scariest, more formidable forces of that show too. To see them become bad pilots is aggravating and beyond nonsensical.
Hell, the very second episode starts off with a middle finger as well. Note that I said second episode since episode one is a weird recap of 0079 and Zeta with Char Aznable doing some Mobile Suit quiz for some reason. It has apparently been two weeks since the end of Zeta and the beginning of ZZ if what I was told was correct. Knowing that: how is Yazan still alive? To be honest, they didn't exactly make any fanfare of his supposed death in Zeta but there was no way he could've survived the attack he was faced with that destroyed his Hambrabi. Here he is, passed out in his escape pod, seemingly not having eaten any food or drank any water, which is impossible for a human to survive. Also, within this time, the Argama seriously couldn't find a single hospital or colony at all for Kamille to rest in? Oh, and instead of being reduced to a childlike state without memories of the series like at the finale of Zeta, he now can't talk and is barely even conscious enough to transfer his newtype powers to Judau. Way to be inconsistent right out the bat!
Haman Karn was the most charismatic, commanding, intriguing, and intimidating character introduced in Zeta Gundam towards the later part of its run. She was as evil as she was cool and sexy. Here she does retain a lot of that, but she is far more vulnerable, particularly around Judau. Episode 27, in particular, made it much harder to take the character seriously as a badass threat. They do try again towards the final 7 episodes, and it does work, but even still, she won’t be as much of a powerhouse on screen after episode 27. She doesn't have it the worst in terms of downgrades, however, and we already discussed Fa. The only major character left to discuss in terms of that is Captain Bright, but I'll save him for when I discuss the new characters, especially since the one responsible for his downgrade is only notable for that.
The downgrades aren't just in terms of the returning characters either: the visuals animation and especially the music took a hit as well. ZZ has far less of the impeccable shading often present in Zeta Gundam, though for a long (for the time) anime beginning weeks after another long one by the same studio, it still holds up well minus a few egregious errors like one particular clip with the Hyaku Shiki in episode 23. There is unfortunately some more reused footage than Zeta, which has very little, but most of it is for the transformation of the ZZ and whenever a Qubeley (or anything directly part of the Qubeley line) launches its funnels. The character designs are also slightly inferior, especially thanks to a certain character I’ll cover. Even still, it's clear that the production values here are a bit lower than previously, as understandable as it is, especially when the new mobile suits introduced on the whole still look very good, especially the one introduced in episode 37.
The music however cannot be forgiven. In terms of the old tracks, they are rarely used effectively since 80% of the time, they do not remotely fit the scenes in ZZ, unlike in Zeta where they complimented nearly every action scene. The new OST is pretty mediocre on its own with fewer scenarios that could hope to compliment them in this show. Even worse is later down the line when those new tracks stop fitting most of the scenes present in the show altogether whereas some of the worked constantly in the first half of the show, as bad and repetitive as those tracks are. The OST is just as repetitive as before but now nothing works so it just becomes much harder to tolerate the repetition. If there is one improvement, however, it would be the OPs (“Anime Ja Nai: Yume wo Wasureta Furui Chikyuujin yo (アニメじゃない-夢を忘れた古い地球人よ-)" by Masato Arai” and #2: "Silent Voice (サイレント・ヴォイス)" by Jun Hiroe) and EDs ("Jidai ga Naiteiru (時代が泣いている)" by Masato Arai and "Issenmannen Ginga (一千万年銀河)" by Jun Hiroe) with the OPs being decent if going on for too many episodes, and the EDs being just meh. That isn't remotely enough to make up for the brutally lackluster, ill-fitting, and repetitive OST.
Part 2: Irritability of the humor, stupidity, and cast of the first 24 episodes
Excluding the admittedly odd recap first episode, the series starts off...not half bad, actually. Episode 2 is a decent enough episode minus the bullshit I mentioned earlier. The humor that would characterize the rest of this anime was controlled and not horribly in our face just yet, especially when there was major consequence involved. Killing off even one of the minor Zeta characters (Saegusa) so early was risky though. We meet the new guys, and there is one hilarious reaction joke regarding Captain Bright connecting the dots about Judau. Episode 3 doesn’t start off half bad either, especially since the humor was still pretty funny. Then, something happened. Mashymre appeared. Then we get the bad attempts of humor that dwarf the series, repetitive as hell humor on top for that, and the fact that it becomes basically a Saturday morning cartoon. This is Universal Century Gundam. I get that Tomino wanted to make sure this installment at least started lighter than the constantly heavy and unhappy Zeta, but its like they went to the other extreme. It’s mainly due to the horrible new cast, which I’ll get to.
The sappy drama that occurs occasionally regarding Fa, or the MoonMoon people is just pathetic as well. To be fair, episodes 18 and 19, where Ple (or Puru) is introduced, are decent episodes with better action and less stupidity but episodes 20-22 ruined that. There are so many individual moments in the first 24 episodes that are so wrong that I’d need to compile a list of them, not including the bits I mentioned earlier, assuming I was able to track down everything I’ve said over those episodes, such as retarded character decisions in episode 11 and 12, not using mobile suits that are perfectly functional and available for them (MK.II in episode 13), not shooting or attacking enemies that are in front of them because the writers want to keep their protagonists alive (episodes 16, 27, and 38 but there it was shooting an ally that was shooting an enemy), Shinta and Qum announcing their plan in front of a bitch they don’t want to know heard their plans (episode 18), and so, so much more. Plus, the entirety of the MoonMoon arc and Cecilia arc (the first time the show tries to go back to the darker, more melodramatic tone of Zeta) is stupid. Oh yeah, this show has story arcs, and they're rather hit or miss.
The new cast is absolutely abysmal, and this will take quite a while to get through. The od cast got fucked and these new guys are among the worst new casts in the franchise. Let’s start to the top for this first half only, with Judau Ashta. He starts out completely insufferable. Imagine Kamille Bidan but unjustifiable and more than willing to attack even those who aren’t being assholes or otherwise very harsh to him (even resorting to attacking Fa when she slaps him for being a cunt to his sister in episode 6). He and his friends are total shitbags to each other, though around the time he stupidly gets Leena kidnapped by Glemy and soon after, meeting Ple, he actually becomes remotely tolerable and responsible. Still, the damage is insane, too much to be easily rectified. Beecha and Mondo start off as just the worst. They’re cowardly, traitorous sellouts willing to actually kill Judau over some cash, and they’re just supposed to be seen as troublemaker friends and not complete and utter scum. Needless to say, I hated them the most out of the entire group. Lino is basically this powerless, wimpy character and faint voice of reason, so he’s basically just kinda there. Roux is the most tolerable (and attractive) of the bunch but is basically the lancer of the group...full of lancers...huh. Elle is kinda a bad character who really is just the amalgamation of many of literally every other member of the group’s traits so of course she sucks. Lastly, there’s Leina, Judau’s little sister who is basically a damsel in distress and a nag. Of course she sucks...
The antagonists don't fare much better, especially in the first half. We start off with Mashymre, who is a complete pathetic tool and cartoon of a character. It’s not a stretch to say that in the first half especially, he is a one-dimensional Saturday morning villain who is all about chivalry for his lady, in the most repetitive gags in the franchise. It was funny seeing Judau call him pretentious though and I did grow to empathize him for one reason I’ll get to. Glemy doesn’t start off that much better, just being kind of a typical nobleman character meant to teach Leina “some manners” and become a pathetic loser around Roux. There’s this fucking fatass named Guzin who is both a Saturday morning villain and an obnoxious scumbag, and that combo works horribly and I wish he was dead. We never see the fucker after the crew leaves Shangri-la anyway, and it’s pathetic that Yazan had to work with him; how far the man has fallen…
Here we go. Rev up that harsh DOOM 2016 music and put it on full blast because here’s where I get truly violent! Remember when I said I empathize with Mashymre? Well, he said a line about wishing death upon this character. CHARA SUNE!! FUCK CHARA SUNE!!!! This bitch, this whore, this harlot...his Jem and the Holograms reject BIMBO…deserves all of my hate! Never have I met a character so insufferable and brutally inconsistent in my life, and she is definitely a contender for the worst character in Gundam history! She has no concrete personality beyond being an insufferable cunt whose sex appeal is flaunted to obnoxious degrees. I get why that is but not only does it never make any sense (apparently some cyber newtype bs and I’ll get to why all of that falls apart soon enough) but she flip-flops constantly with no real catalyst for it beyond Judau towards the end. The worst has to be her insufferable and wince-worthy behavior when piloting a mobile suit and I am glad she disappeared for a good 20 episodes after episode 21 because I could not stand her for any second she was on screen. Fuck you, Chara Sune, for single-handedly making most of the 2nd quarter of the show impossible to bear! I’m glad she's dead! Plus, her voice was horrific and the acting was equally terrible; who hired her seiyuu and who was their seiyuu?
The only other character left is Emary and her only character trait for a large majority of this series is being super lovestruck over Captain Bright, who has a wife and kid, and he gets really awkward around her. This is all she serves in the narrative for most of the run of the show and it looks bad on such a good and prominent character like Bright. What happened to Bright, man? Not only this but he is decidedly less harsh and strict with the new guys than he was with Amuro or Kamille, despite them being way worse than those two, and it hasn't been long since he had been with Kamille. Another way of being less dark and heavy? Fuck off, ZZ, you take that back after 19 episodes anyway.
Part 3: Quarter 3 and what it improved/did right
There is much debate as to where the show started getting consistently better. May say episode 19, some go 23, but to be perfectly honest, I’d say 28 was when the show started getting consistently good episodes. This means that while the third quarter is decent, it takes a good way into that quarter for consistently improved quality. For the sake of semantics, I’ll start at the episode where the Argama crew first land on Earth: episode 23, which is roughly the halfway mark.
23-27 is sort of a mixed bag. 23 and 24 are decent episodes and show that these cretins can be a functional and tolerable unit, especially episode 23. 25-27 is why I don't cite 23 as the changing period and instead cite 28. 25 is a decent skirmish with a few slip-ups but 26 makes 25 look stupid since while in 25, the crew engage in their first desert battle against veteran soldiers of the one-year war and win without too much trouble, one girl in a Gelgoog in 26 gets the crew’s balls rocked. 27 is where I couldn't take Haman nearly as seriously anymore when Judau pulls some crazy newtype bs out of his ass and Haman pusses out of shooting him (she had a lot of opportunities too since she came with intent on shooting him). 28 was the first good episode since 23 since Leina “dies” (I'll touch on that bullshit later); not only do I not like her but it was a real interesting and dramatic moment for the cast at large, even if they do not progress much as characters beyond a few patched up melodrama bits and Judau becoming more responsible.
The Blue Corps and Dublin arcs are actually good. Around this time, even a few episodes earlier, ZZ became a conventionally enjoyable series, though not exceptional. The stories make actual sense for most part until episode 36, characters such as Kamille and Hayato return and are still engaging, and we actually see characters grow and see the main team actually have some semblance of teamwork, which some people pride this group on (despite them almost never having any remote semblance of teamwork or camaraderie at all throughout the show). They also develop Glemy’s darker more manipulative and ambitious side and even capitalized on his lovestruck loser side for better comedy, as well as using it against him. The action scenes were cooler too. What these arcs, in particular, did especially good is getting us to have a reason to care. We care about the Blue Corps and how Glemy gets sucked into the incident, as well as Kamille, Hayato, their situations, and the colony drop, off of which were some of the highlights of the Dubin arc, which, barring the final part of that 3 episode arc, was the best part of the show. If the show were more like this, it would be a decent, maybe even good show, since 9 of these 15 episodes were actually good. All of the antagonists I hated were gone for these sets of episodes and Glemy became a formidable and interesting villain, exploring more of the whole Ple stuff introduced short after Ple’s introduction in episode 18, even if little makes sense (I’ll address all of the newtype and cyber newtype stuff that would become the biggest problem of the second half when I get to part 5, as that is where it’s at its worst). Killing Hayato after he ends up knowing what happened to Katz was an unfortunate move though.
Ple is one of the only decent characters of the show and while we see her in the first half and get to know that despite being this unfortunate cyber newtype, she’s just a kid at heart, it’s here where she becomes more prominent, though more annoying in the leary part of this quarter. Even many of the protagonists get sick of her shit, though it’s not so easy to stay mad at her when she still has competence and is a kid, especially after Lina’s “death”, where she has his arc about trying to fill the void Leina left after trying to usurp Leina for so long. Shame it doesn’t get a proper conclusion and everything this show had going for it that was established with these episodes gets fucked, especially since Ple dies in a bullshit way after Ple-Two becomes a thing and Mashymre comes back (admittedly cooler than before but still a bad, one-dimensional character) in episodes 36 and 37.
Part 4: Before I knew it, the first half of quarter 4 betrayed me
Leina lives...and the emotional impact of episode 28 dies. Just...why? How? Oh, and now she’s a newtype even more powerful than Kamille since she can communicate from...somewhere on Earth whilst the crew she is communicating with is in space. Oh, and for some unknown reason, they made Beecha captain instead of Judau, the one man with more leadership qualities than the rest of the group. It's interesting that Beecha thinks that something is wrong with Judau in either a mental or emotional way and they probably would've been interesting if that were the case now that there is no one left to fill Judau’s “Leina” void even remotely, now that Puru is dead.
For some reason, Mashymre has a new crew with Illya and other people and they battle Judau and co.of course but the dumbest thing in episode 38 happens just like in 37 with the Leina stuff. This one Zeon guy has disobeyed an order but is still completing the objective and is not even a second away from shooting the bridge of the Nahel Argama, and his superior, Illya, kills him. It's obviously a retarded way by the writer(s) to keep the protagonists alive but believe me; it gets worse. Episodes 36-38 have has some dumb shit happen, some of which were especially bad but they weren't enough to make me rescind every positive thing I've ever said about the third quarter of ZZ, until I get to the Rasara arc. The Rasara arc (episodes 39-41) is hands down the worst piece of Gundam fiction I have ever encountered! Each episode in this arc is worse than the last and it feels like some of the worst of what the already abominable first half of this show provided, and barring what it does to Mondo, this arc is completely pointless. It's meaningless and all it adds to Mondo is sadness that only really has any relevance to anyone in episode 45, but I'll get to the laughable final 5 episodes later. For now, how about we rip this arc apart for betraying me so!
Somehow, Haman disguises herself and is now in a refugee ship that her forces attack in an attempt to lure the Nahel Argama. How did they know they were coming? Don't say “Haman can sense Judau” since that's an automatic two-way street for the both of them and Judau can't sense Haman, even when he is touching her and she gives off her newtype vibes and speaks to him! This is episode 39 and it's pretty bad, but it's definitely the best episode in this arc. Oh, did I forget to mention that the MoonMoon tribe from the god-awful MoonMoon arc just randomly pop into the arc and stay with the crew for the remainder of it? Why?! No one liked the MoonMoon arc! Even worse, Sarasa of that arc notices Haman and bites her as having an evil suspicious aura, re no one questions/interrogates her! How stupid are these people?! Then episode 40 rolls around and we get introduced to the absolute worst character in the second half of ZZ: Stampa Halloi! He is just the worst: some fugly fatass generic dog of a man, and barring being a complete fucking coward, this is his only character trait! He is worse than Gemon! He is Chara Sune levels of bad! Thank fuck he’s only here for two episodes, and hopefully, he died when Mondo stabbed his mobile suit! We also get introduced to some troublemaking punks that end up being a parallel to the protagonists in their own introduction, but nothing is done with it; they don't even stay once the arc is over, and once everyone meets Stamps and fight his goons, and Judau finally recognizes Haman from her voice, how do they escape? I'm serious. How? Because fuck it, that's why!
Then episode 41 begins, and it is...unspeakable. Anyone who has made it this far knows that Mondo loves Rasara, so what is the right thing to do? Kill her off of course! I mean, there are interesting ways to do that to make him grow, but here’s where things get fucky: she was getting a bit weak at the beginning, and when Stampa is chasing Mondo in a mobile suit, he dived down, and she dived down on top of him to protect him from harm; she somehow died almost immediately afterwards. Sure, rubble falls down around then, but none of that hits either of them! And then her body looks like it has taken a beating on the front, for no reason! As bizarre and stupid as Puru’s death was, at least it had a catalyst! This? No! Not one thing that could lead to her death here. It's not like she was fatally ill or anything, so how the fuck did she die?! Then an action scene begins and for anyone who could ever enter, their beam weapons were covered up entirely and not allowed to be pulled out, and it keeps that tradition during the fight scene...until Illya and Beecha use their beam sabers, contradicting all of that. Thankfully Mondo finally stabbed Stampa’s mobile suit, possibly killing him...only for it to not explode. Fuck it, I'm done, this arc is over! It was an exercise in punishment, suffering, and the utmost betrayal, and every second of it was as bad, if not worse than every single insipid episode that came before! This arc and this show can rot in hell, and anything and everything good about the previous episodes has been utterly obliterated!
Part 5: Glemy’s revolt, the mishandling of the newtype concept, and the glorious retardation of the final 6 episodes
The final 6 episodes of ZZ are an exhibition of glory, both in terms of how epic they were and how monumentally imbecilic they were. These episodes are gloriously bad due to the brutally terrible foundation for these episodes and the fact that there are integral parts, scenes, and explanations missing here, mainly for two specific things that utterly decapitate these episodes: Newtypes and Glemy’s revolt. Let’s do Glemy’s revolt first since there are fewer things to talk about as to why this fails massively.
We do in fact see that Glemy had ambitions of usurping Haman to rule Neo Zeon. Problem is: we don't see how his rebellion starts. We don't see how he is able to convince a myriad of soldiers under his belt or otherwise, to go along with him instead of Haman. Given that this is the impetus for the conflict of the final 5 episodes, in particular, ignoring something so important to this part of the plot is quite a bad move. Hell, they could’ve skipped the Rasara arc entirely to focus on expanding on this much-needed origin of rebellion, especially since there are only minor inklings of potential for this revolt prior to Glemy’s next appearance which is to effectively begin it. This intertwines with the next thing that kills the rest of this show. It’s finally time for the climax of this review; it’s high time I talk about: the Newtype shenanigans.
Where do I begin? There is so, so much to cover here. How about starting with Chara, just to get the dead bitch out of the way. Oh yeah, she dies retardedly in the final episode while shouting her name triumphantly. Apparently, there is something wrong about her and how she is a cyber newtype to the point where this is used to explain all of her inconsistent behaviors throughout her appearance in episodes 10-21 and the final 6 episodes. Obviously, it doesn’t fly since she has no concrete personality this cyber newtype stuff is supposed to deal with barring her being a demanding bitch...which she is no matter what unless she’s smothering Judau in her bosom. A similar treatment is given to Mashymre after his departure around episode 12 and I don’t know why. We don’t see how he keeps getting roided, and we only ever see one newtype facility and that was for the purus that I’ll cover after this. Zeta bothered to show some of that shit, why not ZZ? He even has this happened between episodes of this section of the show offscreen. This is important and compromising information that we are missing out of. He overloads and commits the coolest act in this entire show and the most epic suicide in all of anime, if not all of fiction. The only thing I know to remotely rival this is the famous scene from Independence Day with the guy that crashed into the mothership. It's ineffective, sure, but he does it with such gusto the tits cool regardless, and literally, everyone takes notice.
Speaking of Ples, before I dive into this particular shitsow, how about I say that Ple-Two is a decent enough character who goes through the typical “choose between brainwashing and freedom side while your head hurts” plot. Also, she is literally fucking impossible, her and the Ple army. Did they simply create Ple clones or something? We don't know. How come Haman knew nothing about any of this? No spies or mandatory reports? Somehow Ple (and eventually Judau) can channel newtype energy so powerful as to deflect beams entirely, and that literally makes no conceivable sense ever, and fuck episode 36 for including such retardation. Ple-Two controlling her mechs with her mind makes sense; RC control of them with her mind (aka doing it outside of the mech, like remote control with her mind) is a stretch, especially for giant mechs and those other shooting funnels being controlled all at once.
In general, they keep adding new, absolutely stupid bs to the newtype business and even among that, it's wildly inconsistent at times. Also, somehow Judau does the same bullshit Kamille did at the end of his series which was always baffling and stupid because the final few episodes of Zeta were also retarded but this is next level shit. The last two episodes are especially riddled with stupidity however and make for a laughable bad finale. They also add forced romantic stuff between Beecha and Elle (who had no inkling of it and when Beecha said he was trying to be nice to her, everyone in the audience should call bullshit when they were all jackasses, especially him, Luke when he and Mondo tried to actively get Judau killed in the first half) for no real reason other than trying to make us feel happy and go “what a long way these guys have come” (though the second time they try that tactic, this time with the final episode with Judau and then saying one more goodbye before he faces off Haman was good). We don't how how Leina survived that incident in episode 28 of a mobile suit crashing and exploding into her shack where she was resting, setting the whole thing on fire (Sunrise…) but apparently now she’s with Seila Mass...who just happens to be on Earth somewhere and we don't even know where. Also, Ple-Two dies in the final episode (or at least passes or and is never seen again but come on, that's most likely death) and no one gives a fuck. Haman dies in a retarded way as well, and Glemy’s death scene makes no sense either both in terms of the Gundam that killed him and the fact that after Ple-Two rejected him to go with Judau, she jumps to save him as he disintegrates and his Mobile Armor blows up and she dies soon after (why?). Oh, and nothing is resolved about this war other than the two tyrants dying but that's apparently good enough for this anime...bleh!
Epilogue
So that was Mobile Suit ZZ. A broken, stupid, largely insufferable mess of a series that took far too long to only temporarily become remotely decent, all the while downgrading everything positive about Zeta such as the visuals to some extent and especially the music. What a chaotic shitshow. The only reasons this isn't the worst in the franchise are that Twilight Axis exists now, almost ⅕ of this series was good and some parts weren't all that terrible, but when over half of your series, especially in the first half, is a 0/10, then there really is little hope for salvation, since it not only compounds every issue Zeta (an infinitely better anime) had but had its own heap of issues to fill a space colony.
To be honest, I see little reason to watch this unless you really want to complete every Gundam anime out there, as it's among the worst-written of them all. This is also the longest anime I've completed that I personally detest. As bad as SEED Destiny and 00 Second Season are, I don't outright hate them like I do with this one. It is one of two in this franchise I actively despise thus far; ZZ is truly the most loathsome this franchise has ever been. Now, with all that said, I bid you adieu.
ShatteredXO
90/100Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ is a true marvel in forward thinking storytelling; a human story as old, yet modern as they come!Continue on AniListShattered/Mr. Bigshot's MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM ZZ review! *** __Two months before starting MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM ZZ__, I had the esteemed pleasure of starting and finishing the entire 50 episode run of the ZETA GUNDAM series (created in 1985). If you know me personally, run in the circles I’m in or read my previous GUNDAM review, you know where I stand on that show and here I’m going with this. But for those that somehow [and, even, thankfully] don’t, here’s a worthy precursor for my feelings on the subject: “Fuck you Tomino. Go to Hell. Never again. Never. Again.” A bit of an over exaggeration, obviously. But if there’s anything that better captures the emotions I felt after finishing ZETA, it’s definitely a few profanities lobbed towards the GUNDAM creator for that mixed bag of missed opportunity. (Nowadays, it’s about two curse words less – progress!). ZETA GUNDAM started off strong with its depiction of fascism, how it can steadily spread throughout the ranks of organization and interesting characters that seemed primed for just as interesting arcs. All of this, coupled with a story that would possibly show the worst humanity can offer while also being a genuinely entertaining series. Unfortunately, the series ends up being the absolute exact opposite of this. Characters go nowhere and remain one-note villainous caricatures of fascists throughout history with nothing of true interest to differentiate them. Women in the cast far and wide are either boring with no worthwhile character moments inserted into their stories beyond their first appearances or dick-starved to the point that they chose to become fascist…for some weird reason. Even characters you think will evolve into something more, like young Kamille Bidan or Katz Kobayashi, end up being just flat out boring, annoying and largely repetitive in their moments. To cut the chit-chat and the ZETA hatred I have stored within me in half, allow me to put it like this – while MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM offered a nuanced and raw take on PTSD and war on the effect of the planet and the young, MOBILE SUIT ZETA GUNDAM offers a nuanced and raw take on a series becoming messier and murkier by the episode, with no character moments from a Char or an Amuro Ray strong enough to save the entire ensemble. Needless to say – ZETA GUNDAM almost turned me off of the very idea of a Tomino-Gundam watch. So, going into ZZ after some much needed downtime, my expectations were low. I knew that it was a contentious series for most of the Gundam fan space and, for the most part, I took that into account as I watched the first few episodes and then the rest of the ZZ series. What awaited me was, on all accounts, a welcome surprise – a return to nuance, a maintained standard of sharp animation and art and an eventual respect for Tomino’s writing on the series. MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM ZZ is one of my favorite entries in the GUNDAM franchise and it’s time that I explained why… ** __I'll be the first to admit__ that starting this show after coming from Zeta Gundam is probably one of the most jarring experiences I’ve had in anime. Though, why wouldn't it be? Going from nearly every member of the AEUG dying violent, horrible deaths to…Judau and his friends getting into hijinks while stealing from the military is definitely something that was never going to blend the smoothest. That said, I think the tone of ZZ ends up straightening out to be a much more pleasant experience than its predecessor; it makes the world feel much more alive and accessible. And that’s not all that it does better! From its main character (we’ll get to him a bit later) to guys like Mondo and Beecha and even antagonists like Mashmyre, Chara Soon and Haman Karn, the experience I had with the characters here was much more enjoyable. Here, Tomino employs a varied amount of character depth that was annoyingly absent in Zeta and much more reminiscent of the original GUNDAM run. Gone are the days of a cast full of one-note, static characters or villains that are evil and antagonistic just for the sake of the story. In its stead comes characters that either get very satisfying and fulfilling arcs to experience along the shows run or characters that are still static, but still get cool moments or scenes where I can still appreciate them overall. To put it in simple terms – everything in ZZ feels much more…natural, well-earned and better written. Rather than characters being in the story simply to fulfill one thematic or story role and having nothing else to do of interest, Tomino offers a cast that is rounded out succinctly. Unfortunately, even though Tomino’s character writing has gotten better for the large part, he still suffers when it comes to writing most of his women and the interactions they have with each other. Ple fights constantly with Elle or Roux, who in turn constantly fight with each other, while also fighting with Chara Soon when they are magically on screen together. It’s a tiring approach to character interaction, especially through a modern lens. That said, each of those characters get moments throughout the narrative that at least keep Tomino in my good graces this time around and…hey! Since none of them are characters that start committing genocide for the sake of getting good d**k in their lives, we’re already above the bar…right? <center><img width='220' src='https://i.imgur.com/ppOloJj.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ppOloJj.jpg'></center> ** __So, I’ve talked about ZZ’s ability__ to make its character cast feel fresh, engaging and (if I could describe them as such) human, but there’s still one elephant in the room that needs to be addressed – Judau Ashta. It’s a bit of a controversy, but I honestly believe that Judau stands tall amongst the main protagonists of Gundam that I’ve currently seen grow. Amuro is a great take on a boy slowly turning into a man fueled by fighting and war. Mikazuki (from what I’ve seen of the totally-standalone-without-a-season-two Iron Blooded Orphans) has a great arc of learning to stand on his own while also appreciating the presence of the people around him. And, hell, while I have qualms with how boring Kamille was for the majority of Zeta Gundam’s runtime, I can admit that he’s absolutely great as the empathetic and wise senpai. But Judau…Judau’s a dick. I mean, an absolute asshole. And I couldn’t love him more because of it. <center><img width='220' src='https://i.imgur.com/h2OxtGC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/h2OxtGC.jpg'></center> Or, uhh…let me rephrase that. Judau starts out with a type of Aladdin archetype: he steals for profit and to provide for his younger sister with his Shangri La friends, he has no respect for the adults that started the wars around him or authority and he’s a dick even to the people that love him sometimes. Although some of that makes Judau seem like an awful person, it makes for an amazing character arc. And that eventually makes him into a great person. Without getting too deep into the dirty details, there comes a point where Judau, confronted with a way of making money that would keep his little sister fed and secured for a considerable portion of her life, outright rejects the very idea. He then proceeds to slap food out of the hand of his beloved younger sister and run off! To put it bluntly, Judau Ashta is very much a jerk, through and through, who cares more in that point in the story about the thrill and sense of independence that playing the thief gives him, rather than what would be best for his sister. Another point of Judau being a relative dick is how he often treats Elpeo Ple, sometimes as an annoying fly or as the irresponsible reason that he has lost his true sister. Judau, I think, is a character that is unable to see the bigger picture in the beginning. He is unable to express heavy amounts of empathy for others and often indulges himself in many selfish desires, even though he covers up the selfish with the idea of being the noble and caring older brother. Judau is an asshole, but he is an asshole that Tomino has constructed brilliantly. I think back to a great scene he has with Elle, where he begins to realize what an awful brother he truly is to Leina…A scene, where, Elle doesn’t clichély tell him that he’s wrong. Judau here has hit rock bottom, both as a man, a protector and a brother. And from then on, it’s a slippery slope to growing and becoming a better person as a result. Tomino excels at character writing not where his pieces on the board stay their same boring selves, but rather when they grow over time, or they devolve as a result of their time within the narrative. This is true for Amuro and now especially so for Judau. As the final pin in my case for Judau as not only a great character but the best main pilot in the Tomino-Gundam trilogy, it isn’t lost on me how well written his time with the women in his life are, as well as the character effect they have on him and vice versa. Leina and Elle are part of Judau’s desire to go on and have something to protect, but neither of them cut him any slack and often push him to be a better person. Although his relationship with Ple starts off rocky, he eventually learns to accept her, empathize with her and ultimately grieve her in a way that feels genuine for the setting. Even near the end of his arc, the lessons Judau has learned through his interactions come a long way into shaping his perspective on the world when he tries to help the late Ple-Two and convince Haman Karn to stand down. This change in Judau not only is the most beautiful aspect of the series in my eyes, but also empowers a moment that I still believe to be the most progressive and powerful scene in this trilogy thus far! <center><img width='220' src='https://i.imgur.com/4fOnVAZ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/4fOnVAZ.jpg'></center> ** __Double Zeta, above all of the Gundam__ series so far that I’ve covered, highlights a very strong and sturdy theme – humanity, at large, has begun to enter a period of stagnation. That is to say, humanity is stuck in a state of decadence and squalor, rather than progress and enlightenment. It’s something that I’d say has always been a subject that all of the GUNDAM helmed by Tomino has always pushed, but this is the series where it is confronted in the foreground, for all to see. And, in that way and in many others, it’s downright ingenious. While the Federation and Zeon/the Titans/Neo-Zeon continue to push out more weapons of war and destruction, the infrastructure and ways of life on Earth and the various space colonies are taking noticeable hits. While the Mark 2 Gundam and the Double Zeta Gundam are being launched off of the military assembly lines, people are shown to be hungry and in food lines. While the White Base becomes the Argama and that becomes the Nahel Argama, people are losing their lives caught in the middle of wars that seem never-ending. Hell, even the Newtypes in the series, an evolution of human perception and ability, are immediately used to further the war efforts of various factions and are even disgustingly mass-produced in the form of Cyber-Newtypes. Humanity is stuck in a perpetual cycle of hatred, abuse and war, which benefits no one in the long run. It’s a subject that isn’t unlike the Gundam series that came before or the type of series that came after (like Attack on Titan and its own take on the material), but why is it that the conclusion in this series about that same cycle feels admittedly much more visceral than even Isayama’s own take? That, I think, goes towards how bright and well done Tomino’s writing is, but specifically his approach to Judau as a character. It’s Judau, his sister, his friends and the other people that grew up on Shangri La that are caught in the middle of these wars that produce nothing but hardship for their daily lives. He has personally experienced the negative outcomes of the countless wars. So it only makes sense that Judau, after a full series of reflecting on his life and growing as an individual, is set up to face that reality and cycle head on! It is Judau that confronts Gremy Toto and Haman Karn, in the sheer heat of battle. It is Judau that confronts them in their flawed belief of power being above the needs of people that have made the Earth and the world around them deteriorate at such an alarming rate. It is Judau that has to be the one to examine the ideals of these adults and reject them wholeheartedly. The same Judau who learns the importance of empathy, understanding and moving forward rather than remaining in stagnation. Not only is this moment the best pin in Judau’s character, but it also works for a scene that plainly puts out what the original Gundam trilogy is getting at and what must be overcome in order for humanity to go to a state not yet experienced… <center><img width='220' src='https://i.imgur.com/rbMiper.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/rbMiper.jpg'></center> ** __While my experience with MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM ZZ__ started off a bit rocky, I can honestly say that I had the time of my life watching the series. The animation and music are as great and as sharp as Gundam has been, but what really kept me was how tight a good percentage of the character writing is this time around. Tomino has crafted a universe where he is able to share and express truly profound ideals of both Foucauldian and empathetic value. Though he might not be the best in the genre when it comes to even the things he’s good at in this series, ultimately I can still appreciate the raw strength that comes from his artistic voice and stance. While (spoiler alert!) I didn’t like Char’s Counterattack very much, my love of Double Zeta is what ultimately, even while writing this review, made me understand what vantage point Tomino is coming from artistically. With ideas that important, in the times we live in, sometimes…maybe that is enough. But some real meat on the bones of a series doesn’t hurt either! Gundam ZZ is a series with heart, determination and a true sense of understanding of its characters and themes and how to make them work perfectly in tandem. While I know that CCA doesn’t quite carry the torch the way that this series does, I raise my glass to the standard that Judau Ashta and the rest of the cast set here – knowing that this is only the beginning for the great works Tomino can spawn from his mind. *** __<center>Final Rating: 9.0/10.</center>__~~~~~~~~~<center> </center><img width='220' src='https://i.imgur.com/FoxWUy4.jpg?1'>~~~
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100/100Zeta but with lots of absurd humor at first. ZZ is misunderstood and does get intense. Deserves more praise.Continue on AniListBefore starting ZZ I noticed online that this series gets a lot of negative feedback. Fans who were outraged to see their favorite characters turned into parodies of themselves. The viewers wanted something more brutal and darker than Zeta and were horrified to see Bright chasing chickens around like a maniac and Gundam fights involving boxing and goofy, bonking sound effects. The serious tone went out the window, and at many times felt like the looney tunes writers were advising Tomino.
Despite all that, I was able to appreciate this new, bold, and risky approach. It wasn't supposed to be taken so seriously, and yet people got angry because Gundam had been very serious up to this point. The first part of ZZ is comedic, until it decides to crush you later on when it starts to get serious. Songs from Zeta started to reappear, and death followed. After a beautiful ending, I felt assured that this continues the glory of this timeline in Gundam history.
The comedic approach takes the series and makes it into a parody of itself for the most part. It felt as if the writers were making fun of and pointing this out when Bright sees his command center turned into a daycare center, and wonders "what is going on?" as his crew fools around immaturely. I had a theory in the beginning that the war broke the characters minds and resulted in the type of humor it approached with how ridiculous Bright and the rest were acting.
At the front and center is Judau, an optimistic Junker who finds himself in the Zeta Gundam after trying to steal it and gets dragged into Haman's war. The two become rivals, and maybe she felt close to him, but their ambitions clearly don't match up and they have to fight. Judau had never known war, and he becomes frustrated with the war mongering of the adults, their cowardice, and the needless deaths he has to witness. Judau is a strong person who brings a light hearted spirit to ZZ. But he has to suffer, and this series tells how painful his life has to become during his struggle.
On the brighter side, his character is very different from Amuro and Kamille. Unlike the others, he isn't a punching bag, and even those like Mr. Wong can't control him. I enjoyed his rebellious personality that is much more rational and free spirited.
Puru is another great character that adds charm to the series. The dynamic between her and Judau is great until the writing turns it into a disaster.
ZZ introduces a large cast of new characters to replace the previous crew. Of the older characters, Bright appears as the most consistent one. As harsh and unforgiving as he is, it's necessary to tame the type of wild spirits he has to deal with as a captain. They did fix one of Zeta's shameless mistakes of leaving important characters in the background with no lines. Once the story gains more intensity, it will feel like Zeta all over again. The new music for this is amusing because it's set to the tone of the comedy, but overall feels weaker than Zeta's soundtrack. The animation is as consistent as Zeta was, and is refreshing to see after watching all this CGI madness from last year's seasonal anime. You can say it's limited to its time. Despite that , there's no denying the great effort put to detail in expressions, body language, and Gundam fights. It may be old but the effort is there that makes it feel more natural than a lot of the soulless anime that is made even today.
My biggest complaint for this is a very specific character death that was handled terribly. After the fact, it was as if nothing had happened and the person felt forgotten for the most part. It was almost as if nobody cared. There are some other odd deaths such as a person dying because a large rock fell next to them, confusing the viewers. Also, some characters just disappear and are never seen again. The animation though is overall good does take some embarrassing shortcuts such as the infamous "stomping mobile suit." There is also the obscene topic of "Bright's potential adultery." After the series becomes serious, it went back to the goofy comedic approach near the end which felt unnecessary. The Newtype powers, of course, continue to evolve. Some viewers are on the fence about this because of how silly it can look when Gundam's begin having forcefields and demonic spirits start coming out of the Newtypes. There are some characters like Mashymre who are embarrassing as villains but hilarious to watch. Some characters suffer what feel almost complete personalities changes that I tried to understand but felt odd regardless.
If you came here for Char or Amuro, you will be disappointed, regardless of the fact that they are in the opening sequence. Still, the cast is large and likeable enough to be able to go on without them; at least for now. By the end, all the characters became great after their goofy beginnings in the early episodes. Kamille is here, but has suffered a tragic fate as was revealed at the end of Zeta.
The center of the story involves the reemergence of the Zeon. The Zabi family is trying to make a comeback after the fall of the Titans in Zeta. Lead by Haman, they try to seize space and trigger a new war. The Earth Federation of course are slimy cowards who are more concerned with their own safety, comfort, and luxuries. Judau sees this cowardice and calls it out. The tragedy of Haman is that she could have been one to unify space instead of doing this. Somewhere in the past she was associated with Char, and the two are similar in that they have strong ambitions coming as Zeon soldiers, but have some kind of ulterior motive in the background that isn't well meaning.
After some Tom and Jerry tier Gundam fights, endless jokes and slapstick comedy, ZZ does begin to horrify the viewers once the story begins to show it's more brutal side. The deaths here felt more impactful than in the original and Zeta. Some of them actually upset me, and that had not happened before. This is because of the comedic approach. It softened up the viewers in an almost deceitful way. I felt tricked. The light hearted comedy and character development made some character deaths even more brutal to watch.
By the end, I felt satisfied with that ZZ had to offer. It deserves more praise and less misunderstanding. By the end, the struggle reaches a new phase, but a red comet is on its way.
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